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Re: Owner Find Accolades

Posted: November 21st, 2012, 6:36 pm
by rocketsciguy
Nice change! My preference would be a lower threshold point value, but that's just because I have nothing to show anymore in this section. (I don't have too many finds, comparatively, yet.) So now instead of being the #1 finder of 5 people with one or two caches each, I got nothing. But if the threshold were 50, I'd show two #2s, two #7s, and two #9s.

Maybe a two-tiered (or multi-tiered) approach could work with some simple logic. If the query returns no results with a threshold of 100, re-run with 50. Or to make it extensible to have multiple thresholds, generate the owner accolade list and find the max point value on it, then set the geocaher's threshold to the larget value of whatever predetermined thresholds are set that does not exceed that max value. So if the different thresholds were {50, 100}, the threshold would fall back to 50 if you hadn't found 100 points worth of somebody's hides (and were a Top Ten finder of them). Another possiblility might be thresholds that increase logarithmically, e.g. {10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 2000, 5000, etc.}, and perhaps you wouldn't use the max point value from the owner accolade list but the #5 top value.

There I go, making things complicated again, but it's what I do. I notice now, that in the limit as the number of thresholds increases, this method just becomes picking the highest 5 point values to be listed on the geocacher page. Maybe this method would be a compromise (depending on how it's implemented) between other methods.... or not, because it's cumbersome and adds little value for most people using this site. Maybe I just need to wait until next summer when those two #2 accolades of mine mature enough to total >100 points (assuming no additional finds) so I have something on my list.... or even better, maybe I just need to go find some more caches! :D

Another note, when a GeocacherPage has no Owner Find Accolades, there is no link to view the full list of accolades, just an extra blank line. I had to get to my list by inserting my cacher ID into somebody else's URL, so a link might be nice, maybe with text like "No Noteworthy Owner Find Accolades Found".

Re: Owner Find Accolades

Posted: November 25th, 2012, 2:54 pm
by Corfman Clan
rocketsciguy wrote:Another note, when a GeocacherPage has no Owner Find Accolades, there is no link to view the full list of accolades, just an extra blank line. I had to get to my list by inserting my cacher ID into somebody else's URL, so a link might be nice, maybe with text like "No Noteworthy Owner Find Accolades Found".
Ah, that's a consequence I didn't notice. We'll work on making the link available whenever a geocacher has any Owner Find Accolades.

Re: Owner Find Accolades

Posted: November 25th, 2012, 3:29 pm
by Corfman Clan
What I'm going to do here is:
  1. Select the top 5 Owner Find Accolades with a point threshold of 100.
  2. If there are less than 4 Owner Find Accolades returned, select the top 5 Owner Find Accolades with a point threshold of 50.
  3. If there are less than 3 Owner Find Accolades returned, select the top 5 Owner Find Accolades with a point threshold of 25.
  4. If there are less than 2 Owner Find Accolades returned, select the top 5 Owner Find Accolades with a point threshold of 0 (no threshold).
The downside of possibly performing one to three more database queries is that display of the GeocacherPage may take a bit longer. My guess is that this impact will be negligible.

Re: Owner Find Accolades

Posted: November 25th, 2012, 3:45 pm
by Corfman Clan
Corfman Clan wrote:What I'm going to do here is:
  1. Select the top 5 Owner Find Accolades with a point threshold of 100.
  2. If there are less than 4 Owner Find Accolades returned, select the top 5 Owner Find Accolades with a point threshold of 50.
  3. If there are less than 3 Owner Find Accolades returned, select the top 5 Owner Find Accolades with a point threshold of 25.
  4. If there are less than 2 Owner Find Accolades returned, select the top 5 Owner Find Accolades with a point threshold of 0 (no threshold).
This has now been implemented. See the Release Notes for details

Re: Owner Find Accolades

Posted: November 26th, 2012, 10:19 am
by rocketsciguy
Corfman Clan wrote:This has now been implemented. See the Release Notes for details
Nice! Me likey!

Re: Owner Find Accolades

Posted: January 4th, 2013, 10:34 pm
by UtahSteve
Owner Find Accolades have turned out really well. Thanks for implementing them.

I was wondering if you would consider adding your rank for an owner find accolade for all owners that you have accumulated more than 100 points from regardless of whether you are in the top 10 for that owner or not?